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 07-14-2009, 15:16 Post: 164046
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After living in the same neighborhood for almost 50 yrs. you watch what happens to buildings after they age and start to need maintinence.
I built or helped build a good number of pole sheds over the years in the neighborhood, some mine some for others, and also helped build or built myself several frame sheds with a frost footing.
My observation now is that the 30-40 pole sheds are in sad shape, poles rotted off, etc. a couple have even been torn down.
The frame sheds also need maintenence at that age, shingles, paint, door repair, etc.
So my point of all this is that the last shed I had built three years ago was a turn key job, I can't climb and all that anymore. The price between a steel clad pole shed and a frame shed on a frost footing were within a few dollars of the same cost.
Now down to my final point. A pole shed at 30-40 yrs is pretty well shot, a frame shed at the same age with some maintenece is good for another 30-40 yrs. I just won't build another pole shed when the cost is the same and the life of a frame shed is double. Frank.






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 07-14-2009, 20:56 Post: 164053
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Murf;
I won't get in a shouting match over building design but either you guys up north keep all the good poles and send the poor ones down to us or what I don't know what the factor is but. I challenge you to find a pole shed in my part of the world that is 30-40 yrs. old that doesn't have most if not all the poles rotted off at ground level. They can be replaced but talk about a nasty job especially if any cement was involved, I know I've did it.
All you have to do is drive past a farmstead with an older looking colored steel pole shed and look at the eveline fron a distance, if it is uneven and wavy you can bet your boots the poles are rotted off. Frank.






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 07-15-2009, 13:04 Post: 164068
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Murf;
I'll have to back water a bit here, the very first pole shed that I helped my father build when I was in high school in the mid fiftys was built with genuine round creosote poles. I burned all summer from handling those with bare arms and hands.
Those poles did not rot off, but any square supposedly creosote or worse the green treated ones we used after that were basicly junk, and our soil conditions were likely the reason, don't know.
That first shed with the round poles has been torn down to make way for a bigger shed, I asked the owner if he would sell me those poles, but he said no.
I guess the reason for banning the genuine creosote was for some cancer reason, so far I haven't had cancer but my brains have tured to mush, the creosote must be to blame.






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 07-15-2009, 13:04 Post: 164069
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Murf;
I'll have to back water a bit here, the very first pole shed that I helped my father build when I was in high school in the mid fiftys was built with genuine round creosote poles. I burned all summer from handling those with bare arms and hands.
Those poles did not rot off, but any square supposedly creosote or worse the green treated ones we used after that were basicly junk, and our soil conditions were likely the reason, don't know.
That first shed with the round poles has been torn down to make way for a bigger shed, I asked the owner if he would sell me those poles, but he said no.
I guess the reason for banning the genuine creosote was for some cancer reason, so far I haven't had cancer but my brains have tured to mush, the creosote must be to blame.






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 07-15-2009, 13:36 Post: 164072
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Sorry about the double post, mush brains I guess.






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 07-17-2009, 10:32 Post: 164148
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Probably 10-15 yrs. ago an aquaintence of mine had a steel clad pole shed built. I happend to stop by when they were setting the poles. The poles were simply three 2X6's spiked together on site to form a pole. They had a kid painting some kind of green stuff on the bottoms that would be in the ground. I haven't been in the shed since it was built, but drive past once in a while, the eveline still looks level. Frank.






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